I believe it would be totally evil, insane, or illogical for a supposed God to purposely create a Devil and place it in the direct lifelines of his first two creations, "Adam and Eve."
Let's get this straight, Bible God punished these two plus their descendants for “Him” creating such an evil entity and allowing A & E’s perfect nature to be corrupted? Excuse me!
In addition, a “perfect” creation could actually be fooled into being anything less than that? Huh?
Then a God punished and killed his own “Son,” someone called a "Jesus," because this "God" himself sabotaged his own creation? What?
And when Jesus was supposedly sent to a blissful Heaven this would be classified as a “sacrifice?” In other words, who ever heard of sacrificing terrible misery for great happiness and riches? Why would anyone pray to and thank a person or Jesus for this? No comprendo!
Do any current Christians believe I'm misunderstanding?
BB
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I would go so far as to say that it seems virtually insane that people would believe these stories. Yet, many do who appear to be quite sane. I agree that a God who creates Lucifer knowing that he will eventually rebel and play a decisive role in the corruption of human beings, then goes ahead and creates human beings knowing that they will disobey him and stain themselves and all of their descendants with Original Sin that predisposes them to sin in turn, then allows Satan to tempt them into this, then hides himself from most of us allowing us to go through life not embracing him because we think he doesn't even exist, and then throws the majority of us who don't believe in him into hell where we suffer excruciating torment for eternity is not a loving God but the ultimate source of all evil and an unspeakably sadistic monstrosity that is, in all likelihood, imaginary rather than real.
Furthermore, I share some of your puzzlement over Jesus' death being a true "sacrifice," given the fact that he knew he was also God and was resurrected soon afterward to take his rightfully glorious place in heaven, and I wonder how a supremely loving, just, and merciful God could expect, much less require, us to believe in this bloody, primitive-sounding story from antiquity in order to be saved.
Of course, not all Christians maintain that all of the above is to be taken with the fundamentalistic literalness with which I've presented it, although many others would disagree. They say that there are more subtly metaphorical interpretations of these stories that more suitably undergird one's faith that leads to salvation. Yet, when you ask them to elaborate, they fall curiously silent.
No misunderstanding at all! Jesus did not come to die for our sins. He died to fullfil his own law as he stated. Is not killing against the law of Father? Will not the lost be killed at the end? A king is not above his own law, or he is a fraud. He died to pay the punishment for what he must do at the end. So yes, he died so he could create us to start with, but not to forgive our sins. He always said repent and sin no more, not I will cover them with my blood. Religion knows nothing of God, so it would be best not to listen to religion? Anyone disagree with that?
It's quite obvious from reading the comments of all three of you that you have spent no time or next to no time in actually sitting down with the Bible to READ it from cover to cover. A person who STUDIES this book will come away with a good understanding of the Nature of God and the nature of Man and the fact that when He created Lucifer and later Adam and Eve, that all were made as creatures of choice. We can choose to do God's will or side with the Devil and ignore His will for us.
Paulusion...wow! The whole concept of Christianity is that Jesus' blood was shed for OUR sins, not to pay in advance for people being cast into Hell!
Again, get a Bible out and do some serious reading, with an open mind ready to learn...and you will.
You might start with the book of John and read all of chapter 3, and also take a look at 1st Timothy 1:15.
A note to Nagarjuna...He's real enough. There's too much design in this world for Him NOT to exist. Ask someone in the medical profession to explain how each person in the world (301 million in the US alone) all have a different DNA signature. And look at the research that has come to light just recently in that regard which shows that all of humanity, world-wide traces back to 8 commonalities (Noah & family) and then traces back to 2 (Adam & Eve).
I love your souls and pray that my encouragement will be taken for just that.
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